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	<title>Comments on: Eighth Carnival of Feminist Parenting</title>
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		<title>By: BLACKkittenROAR</title>
		<link>http://mothersforwomenslib.com/2010/01/17/eighth-carnival-of-feminist-parenting/#comment-1153</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 01:43:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey! 
Just wanted to stop by and thank you for adding my post to your list!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey!<br />
Just wanted to stop by and thank you for adding my post to your list!</p>
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		<title>By: earwicga</title>
		<link>http://mothersforwomenslib.com/2010/01/17/eighth-carnival-of-feminist-parenting/#comment-1150</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 19:20:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Courage to Resist are supporting Alexis Hutchinson http://www.couragetoresist.org/x/content/view/811/1/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Courage to Resist are supporting Alexis Hutchinson <a href="http://www.couragetoresist.org/x/content/view/811/1/" rel="nofollow">http://www.couragetoresist.org/x/content/view/811/1/</a></p>
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		<title>By: AAB</title>
		<link>http://mothersforwomenslib.com/2010/01/17/eighth-carnival-of-feminist-parenting/#comment-1149</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 03:43:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I grew up with the woman&#039;s movement. My mother was really passionate about it. From my perspective the ideas came out like a blast out of cannon. The reality of most women in the 1960&#039;s and 1970&#039;s was pretty dismal economically and socially. The philosophy was meant to empower women and give them tool to look at their situation with new eyes. Unfortunately that came with allot of anger. It came with allot of blame and shame and like most people learning something new their not good teachers of it or good teachers at all. I mean as a boy or youth you really don’t know enough about the world or what masculinity is you’re a kid concepts of masculinity and femininity are abstract as is domination, patriarchy, gender roles and subjugation.  The Redstockings really heated it up with no sex with men till equality was achieved and worse.  The value of history as dead white guys really took away from the and me any good man in history. They essentially assassinated all male role models – fathers, coaches, military men politicians, sports, firemen, policeman, priests, whole intuitions as aggressive, demeaning, prejudiced, and brutal – feminists left nothing untouched -even the type of sex. Men had to be changed to something new – the sensitive guy was the answer.  The poet the artist but only the good ones not Hemingway or Not Burkoski or few others known for drinking and having affairs As boy that pretty much flattens you.  You have no role models and the sensitive guy they wanted in the 1970’s he was crushed 99 out of 100 times. I mean the world of men in a capitalist society is football game. You can go out onto the field all you want with notions of love and connection but your going to get blasted. Male society does not relate well to men or young men without influence.
   But here is what I came to understand what feminism was up against. In the 1970’s  a man could beat his wife up or ex-wife and not even get a ticket. He could rape her too – nothing –zip. He could hold out on child support. There was no law to garnish his wages - he paid pretty much what he wanted to.  Even if the woman wanted to get a lawyer she didn’t have the money! She pretty much was sent into a deep poverty. I mean deep. If she wanted to go to work she had to get in line behind men usually with a high school diploma – even if she had a college degree she did not have resume. If she got a job- there was no sexual harassment law and many employers did not like hiring mothers. They liked hiring young single women. Women could not join the army, the police, the fire department and politically there were no women –zip anywhere in government – nowhere in upper management. I saw this

So when feminist spoke about a change in men and society  – yeah men as group need to change. 

I Still think that in may ways early feminism as today really lacks teaching skills as it is with boys. The concepts and ideas don’t ground boys nor do they have the conceptual frame work at certain ages to handle the feminist ideology.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I grew up with the woman&#8217;s movement. My mother was really passionate about it. From my perspective the ideas came out like a blast out of cannon. The reality of most women in the 1960&#8242;s and 1970&#8242;s was pretty dismal economically and socially. The philosophy was meant to empower women and give them tool to look at their situation with new eyes. Unfortunately that came with allot of anger. It came with allot of blame and shame and like most people learning something new their not good teachers of it or good teachers at all. I mean as a boy or youth you really don’t know enough about the world or what masculinity is you’re a kid concepts of masculinity and femininity are abstract as is domination, patriarchy, gender roles and subjugation.  The Redstockings really heated it up with no sex with men till equality was achieved and worse.  The value of history as dead white guys really took away from the and me any good man in history. They essentially assassinated all male role models – fathers, coaches, military men politicians, sports, firemen, policeman, priests, whole intuitions as aggressive, demeaning, prejudiced, and brutal – feminists left nothing untouched -even the type of sex. Men had to be changed to something new – the sensitive guy was the answer.  The poet the artist but only the good ones not Hemingway or Not Burkoski or few others known for drinking and having affairs As boy that pretty much flattens you.  You have no role models and the sensitive guy they wanted in the 1970’s he was crushed 99 out of 100 times. I mean the world of men in a capitalist society is football game. You can go out onto the field all you want with notions of love and connection but your going to get blasted. Male society does not relate well to men or young men without influence.<br />
   But here is what I came to understand what feminism was up against. In the 1970’s  a man could beat his wife up or ex-wife and not even get a ticket. He could rape her too – nothing –zip. He could hold out on child support. There was no law to garnish his wages &#8211; he paid pretty much what he wanted to.  Even if the woman wanted to get a lawyer she didn’t have the money! She pretty much was sent into a deep poverty. I mean deep. If she wanted to go to work she had to get in line behind men usually with a high school diploma – even if she had a college degree she did not have resume. If she got a job- there was no sexual harassment law and many employers did not like hiring mothers. They liked hiring young single women. Women could not join the army, the police, the fire department and politically there were no women –zip anywhere in government – nowhere in upper management. I saw this</p>
<p>So when feminist spoke about a change in men and society  – yeah men as group need to change. </p>
<p>I Still think that in may ways early feminism as today really lacks teaching skills as it is with boys. The concepts and ideas don’t ground boys nor do they have the conceptual frame work at certain ages to handle the feminist ideology.</p>
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		<title>By: earwicga</title>
		<link>http://mothersforwomenslib.com/2010/01/17/eighth-carnival-of-feminist-parenting/#comment-1148</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[earwicga]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 09:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Further to your last festival link re. Alexis Hutchinson, she has now been charged and is facing a court martial and jail.  http://rawstory.com/2010/01/army-charges-single-mom/  Disgusting!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Further to your last festival link re. Alexis Hutchinson, she has now been charged and is facing a court martial and jail.  <a href="http://rawstory.com/2010/01/army-charges-single-mom/" rel="nofollow">http://rawstory.com/2010/01/army-charges-single-mom/</a>  Disgusting!</p>
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		<title>By: earwicga</title>
		<link>http://mothersforwomenslib.com/2010/01/17/eighth-carnival-of-feminist-parenting/#comment-1147</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[earwicga]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 09:28:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great carnival.

I&#039;d like to add that not all of us were that chuffed with Grace Fletcher-Hackwood&#039;s post.  Further to what I put on the thread, I &lt;a href=&quot;http://earwicga.wordpress.com/2010/01/03/the-feckless-and-the-feral/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;wrote a response here.&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great carnival.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to add that not all of us were that chuffed with Grace Fletcher-Hackwood&#8217;s post.  Further to what I put on the thread, I <a href="http://earwicga.wordpress.com/2010/01/03/the-feckless-and-the-feral/" rel="nofollow">wrote a response here.</a></p>
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		<title>By: Paige</title>
		<link>http://mothersforwomenslib.com/2010/01/17/eighth-carnival-of-feminist-parenting/#comment-1145</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paige]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 03:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you for the great links!  I hope to submit a post in the future.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for the great links!  I hope to submit a post in the future.</p>
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