I wrote this for my main blog and then figured it would fit in pretty well here, so here it is for your dissection.
I’ve read a lot in the radical feminist blogosphere about how radical feminist women ought to refuse to care for male children (funny how this doesn’t apply to say, Biting Beaver or Heart, both of whom have male children who as far as I am aware, raised/are raising their boys into adulthood and in Heart’s case at least, haven’t disowned them).
Regular readers will know I have a son, who is three and a half years old. I made a choice to continue with my pregnancy, using a choice that feminism gave me. If I hadn’t wanted a child, I could have easily chosen abortion, as I live in the UK and it is (still, so far) legal here. I didn’t choose that, I chose to have a child. The funny thing about conception is there’s no telling what you’re going to get. Without being told by one’s sonographer, it’s pot luck as to whether you get a male or female child. Here in Portsmouth it’s against the rules for them to tell you the sex of your foetus; you have to wait until it’s born. And I don’t know about you, but the women I know don’t have switches in their uteri to decide to only carry female foetuses.
So having made the choice to continue with my pregnancy, and having spent nine months carrying my baby, he was born and pronounced to be Orion (rather than Amidala, isn’t he lucky he wasn’t born female with that name picked out!). What would the anti-boychild feminists have had me do? “No thanks, I wanted a girl one, you can take this one away.” Quite aside from the fact that there are already too many babies and children unwanted in the adoption system as it is, I chose to have this child. I do not believe that raising a boychild in itself is an antifeminist act and I’ll tell you why.
One of the problems with a patriarchy is that we are all born into it. Children (and most adults!) don’t even realise they’re in it, and by the time that realisation is made by the few who do so, it’s often too late to undo all the ingrained thoughts, feelings and actions that have been imprinted since birth. Most parents don’t realise the damage that can be done by gender stereotyping, and go along with it because it’s just so normal to them.
Surely then, the best person to raise a boychild is someone who as a feminist recognises patriarchy and its stereotypes and constructs, and can actively work against it to try to raise the men of tomorrow to be unlike the men of today? I’m not saying they’ll be perfect. It might take a few generations to get it right. But we’re not going to destroy the patriarchy overnight either, that too will take decades or even centuries. The two – destroying patriarchy and raising boys into men who recognise and are active in destroying patriarchy – seem, to me, to go together like… well, two things that go together really well.
None of us is perfect. My son will have all sorts of influences on him, going against the feminist upbringing and education he is receiving at home. But I’m not the only one doing this, there are thousands of feminists raising boys, and this next generation will, with any luck, have a hell of a lot more boys-raised-by-feminists than the current one. And then the next generation will have even more, and even more. I’m not saying it’s women’s job to educate men/boys; of course it isn’t. But those of us who, having been given male children by the luck of the draw, decide to do the best we can to minimise patriarchal impact on our own boys should not be vilified.
I love my son. I had a choice and I chose him, and like many mothers I choose to do the best I bloody well can to raise him into a happy, healthy adult. I also choose to do the best I bloody well can to raise him against, rather than according to, the patriarchal stereotypes of the way that boys must be. Right now he’s too young to know that his penis means he’s meant to dress/play/act/behave in a certain way, and I have no intention of telling him any time soon.
Of course there are, and will be increasingly in the future, forces working against me to push him into a gender mould (my ex, his father, being one of them). Like I said, we won’t get it perfect the first time round. But we might change things just a little bit, and then we can pass the banner onto the next generation for them to carry on moving in the right direction.
Raising boys is very much a feminist issue. Boy children are always going to exist; better to raise them into decent human beings than to pass them on for the patriarchy to do as it will. I am utterly fed up of feminists who tell me it’s all about treating women as adults, turning around and telling me what I should and should not be doing according to their narrow view of what is and isn’t good for women. I think raising men who are aware of their privilege is good for women, because who knows – we might just end up with a neutral, equal society one day.
April 9, 2009 at 3:44 am
I also think a lot about this. I want to raise both my kids as feminists, my daughter and my son. I wrote about it in a few posts:
http://www.phdinparenting.com/2008/11/02/raising-a-feminist/
http://www.phdinparenting.com/2008/07/12/bias-against-boys/
April 9, 2009 at 8:42 am
Women who believe that raising boys has no value aren’t feminists, they’re elitist and narrow-minded idiots. Brava for standing up to this crap!
April 9, 2009 at 12:39 pm
[...] for Women’s Lib which is a blog out of the UK that I just saw this morning with this post On Raising Male Children. Exciting, I think. And then I read, “I’ve read a lot in the radical feminist blogosphere [...]
April 9, 2009 at 6:38 pm
Not caring for male children – are you insane? Feminism isn’t about hating men, and for God’s sake innocent boys, it is about empowering women – they are not the same thing. And as a liberated mother of 2 little boys I can’t think of a better way to change the world that to have intelligent women raising boys. This is as bad as those who give up little girls in many countries because they aren’t as good as boys. How is this any different? So sad that to be feminist some people have to feel so angry.
April 11, 2009 at 3:36 am
Feminism really needs to get beyond this its only for the female gender crap. I raised a son and I raised a feminist. As you said, I didn’t get it perfect and there was and still is a lot to contend with, however the dialogue is open and that’s where the change will occur.
April 20, 2009 at 1:13 pm
“there are thousands of feminists raising boys, and this next generation will, with any luck, have a hell of a lot more.”
I admire your optimism, but I’m tempted to think you a little naive.
As a 50+ year old bloke, I’m perpetually saddened by the overwhelming majority of female family and friends who slide effortlessly into stereotypically gender roles in their relationships.
I grew up in the early years of the modern wave of feminism and such comments were bandied about with similar certainty. Sadly, the fervor of those early feminists seems to have waned in their daughters.
April 21, 2009 at 10:01 pm
Fabulous post. I especially like ‘Surely then, the best person to raise a boychild is someone who as a feminist recognises patriarchy and its stereotypes and constructs, and can actively work against it to try to raise the men of tomorrow to be unlike the men of today?’
I think, in response to cycleboy’s comment, it’s a bit hard to tell as yet. I see a lot of the 50+ generation in stereotypical gender roles, and a lot of my own (mid-20s) in them too. I think what we can do about that is analyse our own responses to the world and our actions and spread the word. Especially when it’s on something like housework and childrearing where both halves of the couple work (as in working for equality there)… More than that, it’s about highlighting any equality. I think – I worry – that where my generation has been mostly brought up by women in traditional gender roles, where a woman does most of the housework (for example), the natural assumption for both sexes is that the female partner will then do so for the male partner as it is an obvious conclusion if that’s what it was like in your household growing up. This is such a tough issue and I know my enlightened friends with enlightened partners suffer this. Apologies for not being able to address the child-rearing side of this so much, I don’t have much experience there, nor many friends with babies. The ones I do have with babies, well, the primary care comes from the female… Great blog, I am going to keep coming back and also pushing the link onto friends! So glad I found it through The F Word
April 22, 2009 at 9:13 am
I totally agree feminist mum- we need to embrace partriarchy in order to overcome it, not sit around weighting for perepetia.
However, what if the son isn’t yours but you have to live with it? I’m currently in quite a serious relationship with a man and his son is already starting to gender stereotype me. He’s eight and always expects me to fetch him sandwiches or help him pee at the roadside. I’ve spoken to partner but he says it’s out of his control and that Jake’s mother is a feminist who has raised him to respect women. His ex-wife works in interior design PR for god’s sake, she has a cath kitson apron (which she was wearing when I popped round once) and her favourite film is Mystic Pizza. She is NOT a feminist.
I love this man; what should I do about his patriarchal offspring when it isn’t mine?
June 28, 2009 at 10:13 pm
Posie Rider
You have a different situation to Anji in that Anji is bringing up a boy alone and in your case the boy’s genetic father is your partner. Jake’s father seems unsure where to begin but it would be good for him and Jake if he starts up a relationship with Jake ASAP. If he hasn’t read it already, I can thoroughly recommend The Gender Knot by Allan G Johnson. And a great book for anyone bringing up a boy is Dan Kindlon and Michael Thompson’s Raising Cain: Protecting the Emotional Life of Boys. There’s a related video too.
HEALTH WARNING: stay away from Steve “do-as-I-say-or-you’ll-turn-your-boy-gay” homophobe Biddulph.
(incidentally Anji I should be interested to read where you read a lot in the radical feminist blogosphere that women should not bring up boys, especially as you seem to imply that it was recommended to abort or disown boys and that doesn’t sound like any radfem stuff I’ve ever encountered except in the lying pages of the tabloids)
June 29, 2009 at 11:08 am
J Wood – Firstly, I hope you’re not reading that as a denouncement of radical feminism – I identify as a radical feminist and know many who are not like this. It wasn’t a dig at radical feminism as much as an expression of my disappointment/surprise that some radical feminists see this as a feminist viewpoint.
Not all radical feminists feel this way of course, but I recall reading in a thread in a closed radical feminist forum something along the lines that women shouldn’t be raising boys, that all mothers of boys/men have “Not-My-Nigel” syndrome, and that we should be leaving it to men to raise boys and concentrate all our energy on female children.
Stupidly I didn’t save links to any of the ones I read (mostly I suppose, because I only tend to bookmark articles/posts I like) but here are some from a blog called A Room Of Our Own, by two radical feminists:
http://aroomofourown* .wordpress.com/2009/04/20/refusing-to-condone-your-behavior-is-not-the-same-as-hating-you/
http://aroomofourown* .wordpress.com/2009/05/13/responsibility/
http://aroomofourown* .wordpress.com/2009/05/17/am-i-crazy/
(you will need to remove the stars and spaces as I do not especially wish to trackback to that blog)
It is not just these two women of course, but a whole bunch of commenters – other radical feminists – in agreement with them.
June 29, 2009 at 10:39 pm
Thanks Anji for the ‘heads up’. And thanks for the links, I see where you’re coming from now.
I have checked out said articles and they do talk about not raising boys, in no uncertain terms.
Mind you, the more I read them the more their ideas make sense! Truly! Basically what I think they’re saying is that for at least the last five thousand years women have been subordinate in this patriarchy, they can’t see it changing unless women do something a bit different to what they’ve done thus far, thus far they’ve enabled men and boys and brought up boys who then become indoctrinated into the system, all women’s energy has been spent on serving patriarchy and not on supporting womankind, furthermore, if the choice is EITHER:
1. stay as we are [which we can't do without being self-hating women, because women and girls are being raped and murdered and subordinated to androcracy every day and will continue to be until we do SOMETHING]; OR
2. refuse to focus on boys and men to the detriment of women and girls any longer
then the only thing we can do to save humankind is to put women and girls first for a change.
Makes sense to me. Of course it sounds ‘mean’ or, at the very least, it smacks of behaving like the oppressor, becoming like the oppressor, even becoming the oppressor but actually it isn’t. Because on the one hand we have upwards of five thousand years of a patriarchal system where women and girls are murdered and raped and boys are trained as murderers and sent off to war to die, which looks set to continue for a full five thousand more years and, on the other hand, we have women saying STOP! either I’m bringing up no more cannon fodder or, if I do spend any of my time bringing up child(ren) it will be only those who are least likely to murder, rape or warmonger, namely not boys. Most women never have this choice under patriarchy of whether or not or who they will bring up.
One good point which stood out was that the blogger was being villified for speaking her THOUGHTS on a what-if scenario (see below)*** whilst all along the ACTUAL infanticide, rape and murder of women and girls (which the blogger flagged up) continues daily worldwide, yet went un-commented on by her attackers, who overlooked the issue entirely to criticise the blogger’s words in preference to patriarchy’s deeds. Makes u think.
Thanks again Anji
Joy
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*** “I will rank the following three scenarios, options, if you will, in order of my preference:
Male infanticide.
Female infanticide.
Females continue living as males’ slaves.
Of course, these are not the only three options available, though they do seem to me to be the options most likely to occur with any lasting *effect* (with full recognition that numbers 2 and 3 concur).
But, yes, I believe male infanticde to be the best of those three options. That is to say, I believe male infanticide to be a *better* option than the current circumstances. That doesn’t speak to what I might feel the *best* option would be. I only mean to put into perspective my stance on male infanticide, given its invocation in the comments of another post. I think it’s better than what we’ve got.
Note that I also feel that female infanticide is a better option than being born into patriarchy as it stands, as well.
I just happen to think it’d be better if the males were the ones dying, rather than that the females be the ones dying *and* suffering.”
August 3, 2009 at 6:51 am
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October 1, 2009 at 2:47 am
My kids, two boys and a girl are raised to equally respect both myself and their father.
We have few gender stereotypes in our family home. We all consider ourselves equal and respect for all is shown. I pay particular attention to making sure that equality is a focus – I hope to raise self confident individuals who focus less on the conditioned roles society places on them – and more on the rights of all human beings to be equal and have equal choice.
The thought of not raising my sons because they have a penis is insane.
March 19, 2011 at 10:38 pm
I think deciding to raise your child, after making the decision to carry him to term, is a worthy one. But, the fact that you compelled to articulate an apology for this decision does little favor to your movement. Put frankly, it sounds crackpot. I’m concerned that what you’ve said, despite perhaps the best of intentions, suggests you’re scheming an early lifetime of gender-based guilt to bestow upon your son. If that’s the case, please find someone whose only agenda is his emotional well-being and promptly give him up.